nicothejudge sitting in seat 1 with 10245.00
bmcl84 sitting in seat 2 with 4060.00
duke88 sitting in seat 4 with 4685.00
humbug70 sitting in seat 5 with 10250.00
undertaker- sitting in seat 6 with 5755.00
Carnivore04 sitting in seat 7 with 3745.00
craig121 sitting in seat 8 with 4995.00[Dealer]
eyeball09 sitting in seat 9 with 4990.00
george727 sitting in seat 10 with 2410.00
eyeball09 posted the small blind - 25.00
george727 posted the big blind - 50.00

** Dealing cards to Carnivore04: ,
nicothejudge folded
bmcl84 folded
duke88 folded
humbug70 called - 50.00
undertaker- folded
Carnivore04 called - 50.00
craig121 called - 50.00
eyeball09 called - 50.00
george727 checked

** Dealing the flop: , ,
eyeball09 checked
george727 checked
humbug70 checked
Carnivore04 bet - 100.00
craig121 folded
eyeball09 folded
george727 called - 100.00
humbug70 called - 100.00

** Dealing the turn:
george727 checked
humbug70 checked
Carnivore04 checked

** Dealing the river:
george727 checked
humbug70 bet - 550.00
Carnivore04 raised to 1350.00
george727 folded
humbug70 called - 1350.00
Carnivore04: ,
humbug70 mucks: ,
Carnivore04 wins 3250.00 from the main pot

nh m8!

Just a small point tho - he needs J or better to call reraise on river. If he has J or better I think he calls all in. If he cant beat a jack he cant call anything. with this in mind, its a river shove for me here everytime.

wildrick wrote:nh m8!

Just a small point tho - he needs J or better to call reraise on river. If he has J or better I think he calls all in. If he cant beat a jack he cant call anything. with this in mind, its a river shove for me here everytime.

Nice point.

lol as i read this i thought to myself why no shove on river,then i read ricks post!
nh m8

wildrick wrote:nh m8!

Just a small point tho - he needs J or better to call reraise on river. If he has J or better I think he calls all in. If he cant beat a jack he cant call anything. with this in mind, its a river shove for me here everytime.

You really do look deep into these don't you? I didn't spot that part of the hand at all - I was just amused at the nice hand and some chips won. Class divide! - Well spotted , sir.

Disagree guys but i do take your points on board.

When i lead out he is obviously calling as he does not believe me and why would he? I mean who flops and bets 4 of a kind?

I check the turn to look scared and make him think i was lying which he duely does by leading out on the river but does his lead out bet mean he is sure and wants a call from me or is he merely betting to find out where he is in the hand ?

Now if i all in i think i give the game away so instead i make a value bet to ensure the call.

I guess we will never know but defo food for thought for the next time. I'm glad this point came up tho as i have been wondering of late if i have been getting maximum value from hands in general or if i have been too relaxed in my betting missing out on chips or too over indulgent and scaring them off.